865. It is true that among fervent believers, the teaching is that it is "baptism" that Jesus is referring to here. And how could these beings possibly have any other opinion? They belong to precisely that group of beings to whom the world redeemer could bring peace of mind solely by means of the sacramental formula: "Thy sins are forgiven thee". Such beings have still not even begun to use their intelligence with respect to the highest mysteries; they have put their "faith" in the prophets, the holy scriptures, the church and the clergy, and are fully content to do so. They have not yet had that doubt in their minds that made Nicodemus seek out Jesus. They have absolutely no need of information about reincarnation or rebirth; if anything, such information would only confuse them. Their mental worries can find manifestation only in the notion of what they presume is God's "wrath", which they have provoked as a result of what they equally presume as their "sins". And the one thing they need or that is of any importance to them is the Godhead's "forgiveness" or "the forgiveness of their sins", which is the only thing that can make the "believer" happy and give him peace of mind. For these beings how could any other phenomenon compare with such an experience as "sensing that God has forgiven their sins"? Is not everything else enormously irrelevant to such beings, compared with the divine "mercy" that they consider has been bestowed on them? It is consequently completely obvious that the sacraments of baptism and holy communion are to them the absolute central factors in Jesus' manifestation.